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  1. hossrex says:

    Would you have made this post had McCain won the election?

    Don’t you realize that unless the answer to the previous question was “yes” (which it wouldn’t have been), this becomes a remarkably racist post?

    Don’t you realize that racism works both ways?

    Don’t you?

    Racism is bad. Isn’t it?

    Obama will be a fantastic president. It is however insulting to the intelligence of just about every American to say this is somehow a bigger deal, simply because Obama is of African American heritage.

    Okay though. Congratulations to all you people who’re excited that we have a “black president”, instead of simply a “new president”. If thats how you feel, you’re racist. Its accepted racism… but should any racism be accepted? Is that the world you want to live in?

  2. Hossrex, Sir/Ma’am:

    “Would you have made this post had McCain won the election?”

    YES. (Responses respectfully annotated in CAPS for clarity)

    Don’t you realize that unless the answer to the previous question was “yes” (which it wouldn’t have been), this becomes a remarkably racist post?

    THAT IS NOT MY WAY OF THINKING. IT IS YOURS.

    Don’t you realize that racism works both ways?

    YES.

    Don’t you?

    YES, I DO.

    Racism is bad. Isn’t it?

    IT IS.

    Okay though. Congratulations to all you people who’re excited that we have a “black president”, instead of simply a “new president”. If thats how you feel, you’re racist. Its accepted racism… but should any racism be accepted? Is that the world you want to live in?

    I ALSO WANT TO LIVE IN A WORLD WHERE PERSONAL OPINION IS RESPECTED.

    THANK YOU.

    Armand B. Frasco
    Chief Blogger
    Moleskinerie.com

    [This item was posted in the "Personal" category. It does not reflect the corporate opinion of Moleskine Srl or its parent company, subsidiaries and/or employees]

  3. Chet says:

    History would also have been made if McCain had won cuz he would’ve been the oldest person to become president. Is that ageism?

    Here in Malaysia, there is discussion in the blogosphere (sp?) about whether Obama is really 100% black, therefore should he be called a black President. Some say he’s only half-black because his mother was white. Others reply that we usually take our lineage through our father’s side of the family so yes, he’s black because his father was black. I used to prefer the term “coloured” because I thought “black” didn’t include all the other shades. After today, I understand why “black” is used. Because it’s not “white”. Even half-white is not “white” so it’s “black”.

    The above is just my personal humble 2 Malaysian sen opinion.

  4. Katherine says:

    It’s also good to draw history – I drew a queue from a long way away.

    All points in a day are ‘history’ – it’s just that some days which make history also make people happy to join queues!

    I’d call any day which saw the largest ever turnout for an American Election a pretty important day.

  5. Johnny says:

    Assuming that the blogger would not have posted what he did if McCain would have won is both unfair and ignorant. It is presumptuous at best to pretend to know another person’s blogging intentions, let alone his heart. And if you knew anything at all about Armand or his life, you would never even imply that he could be racist.

    Jumping from the assumption that calling something “historic” just because the new President of the United States is black is just bad logic and a misunderstanding of the concept of racism. Racism is not when race is merely considered generally. If it were, then even talking about Obama as a black man would be racist, and I doubt most people would agree that is so.

    We usually think of racism in terms of when race dictates behavior or attitudes in a negative way. Favoring white people, for instance, is not really racist in the same way that excluding black people is. (No, they are not the same thing. One could favor white people over Asian people and exclude black people in favor of Arabic people, etc.)

    Racism is a holding back or an unfairness that is NEGATIVE.

    Understood in this way, one could argue that the history of politics in the United States is racist because it has excluded people on the basis of race. One could argue that the history of our country itself is racist. And people have put forth arguments like these. But under the definition of racism where positing one’s race in general is racist, things get crazy.

    The HISTORY that I think Armand is talking about is the putting aside of racism (if not a harbinger of its demise or its being overcome) displayed when our nation elected a black President yesterday. To suppose that a country that only abolished slavery in the last century and a half, a country where racial inequality was openly condoned in some of our lifetimes, where I could not marry the person I married for our different races a few decades before I did — to suppose that this country overcoming all of this, at least this once — to suppose that this is not HISTORIC is to ignore the legacy of racism you claim is being displayed here.

    [This is my own opinion, not that of AF and was not solicited by anyone.]

  6. ratan x says:

    This site is far better when politics is left out all together.

  7. Pe Riche says:

    I am new to this site and have recently purchased two of my very first Moleskine products. I have the City Notebook Chicago as well as the Plain Soft Cover Notebook. I could not be more elated with the mediums through which I am able to capture my thoughts and memories.

    However, in regards to the first comment, the allusion to which you have drawn, and have also managed to make controversial, are uncalled for. The title of the post simply reads, “History in the making.” The post is so open and vague that one could not possibly tailor it to suite any specified subject, especially one pertaining to racism. Contrarily, I must admit that your sudden outburst has provided for the upmost comical entertainment in my office.

  8. Sophie Brown says:

    Whoa. I wasn’t expecting this dialogue. I guess that there was an old law on the books during slavery and Jim Crow laws that said if you were 1/18th black then you were black and singled out for all manner of things legally. Therefore someone with a black mother or father or some mix is likely to call themselves “black”. Certainly if you APPEAR black you are treated as a black person and then have ensuing difficulties related to that group. Barak Obama would therefore be unlikely to consider himself “white”. The social injustice of that time and the deeply rooted travails in AMERICA are maybe not readily understood in Malaysia. “Black” means more than the sheen or hue here, it’s a social designation in this society.

    Personally I’m very excited and I don’t care if Barak Obama is black or not. It IS interesting, granted. This is the first time I’ve ever been excited by a president who I think will be able to do great things, many of us never got to vote for a winning Democrat before.

    What happened here last night was fun (I live in the Bronx). I wasn’t watching the returns really because I figured I’d be up all night if I got into it. So I was at the computer. I heard what I thought were three gunshots–some toy gun and nobody was really scared. Then what happened was all of the cars were driving by honking their horns. For like a half an hour people were honking and driving around and yelling out the windows and stuff. So that was fun.
    It was a very joyful feeling.

  9. WTF?? says:

    Why are the commenters even bringing race into this?

    This election means change. What does race have to do with this? If you read any information about the demographics of voter turnout, race had VERY little to do with the campaign

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  10. ron says:

    “If you read any information about the demographics of voter turnout, race had VERY little to do with the campaign”

    indeed, you might do well to educate yourself on the history of the United States, the polls before and after the election. the assumption that race had “very little” to do with this election season is just naive. if you can really think that, you’ve never been to a southern or midwestern state.

    no, i’m not saying all southerners or midwesterners are racist. i’m southern.

  11. Dayzee_M says:

    Even if the blog was about Obama being the first black president of the USA, so what? He IS the first black president of the USA, that’s a fact! In my opinion that IS history in the making. It has nothing to do with either positive or negative racism, it’s a simple fact!

    It would also be history in the making if the first woman would be elected president of the USA, I bet no-one would start about racism then.

  12. Chet says:

    Sophie Brown said:
    “The social injustice of that time and the deeply rooted travails in AMERICA are maybe not readily understood in Malaysia. “Black” means more than the sheen or hue here, it’s a social designation in this society.”

    Thank you for the clarification. But the term has been adopted by other groups in other countries, so the meaning for them is different from that in your country. I was speaking from a non-American use of the term.

  13. anonymouse says:

    Oh brother. The one haven to come to during the election madness, Moleskinerie, is no longer a haven.

    An African American being elected IS history. To say otherwise is blind.It’s a huge leap towards equality. One day it’ll be commonplace to elect individuals- male AND female– for president. It was a historical election for age, color, and gender– let’s not pull out a “racism” or “sexism” or “ageism” card. They’re simple facts. We’ll have the first black president. In a decade, hopefully we’ll have the first women president. Or, even, the first female Asian, Latino, etc. president.

    A women in the VP slot IS history, too.

    A 72 year old main as a nominee is nearly historical– it would have been historical had he won, due to age.

  14. Alice says:

    Alice is just going to say this: THIS is Armand’s Blog and it is HIS RIGHT to place here what HE choses. HIS freedom of speech and expressions are what this blog is about. Anything else should be posted on a public discussion forum. End of discussion!!
    ____________________
    Thanks Alice. Moleskinerie is owned by Moleskine Srl in Milan. The post, however, was a personal entry. – Armand

  15. El Mocho says:

    Actually, this seems to be a decidedly apolitical post, except for the focus on the United States, with a flag in the background– which is appropriate, due to it being our election day. No matter who had been elected, “History In the Making” would have been an apt headline. The post makes reference neither to Obama nor McCain.

    I write about my current history all the time in my journal. It just happens that on November 4, larger events coincided with my more mundane daily chronicle. However, we know when major events like elections occur, so it helps us to pay extra attention.

  16. Sophie Brown says:

    Blogs really aren’t “havens”. You could have predicted this whole thing. Most people have IQ Scores that hover at body temperature and every once in awhile someone is misinformed that there are no stupid comments or questions. When they fashion themselves as gadflys, they you really have to take cover. These little bickering sessions happen everywhere. It’s one of the perils of starting a group discussion on the web.

    I think Armand is remarkably open to posting anything, probably has a reasonable view on freedom of expresson [talking about you as if you aren't in the room] and I would assume a more liberal view because I think more conservative people tend to rally in agreement, like being more gung-ho about supporting people in the service or sticking sentiments about God into regular conversation (no I am not being critical). Like how in the fire department they all tend to agree about being “positive” all the time, when we’re so busy being tolerant about intolerance we start getting a little knee-jerk too. But you can’t start guessing at how a blog manager might vote. Like, who cares? I’m assuming he’s a free speech guy, and that’s never absolute either. I guess if you wanted to sell drugs or shoot a senator or were really pornographic, he wouldn’t post it. He’d call the police. That’s STANDARD. He seems to feel okay about whatever Dumb Idea wanted to share, so that’s free-wheeling enough. It was a historic moment for whatever reason and you can expect this little photo, like on Veteran’s Day he does the same. Someone says something, says, “Jump!” and the we all get so worked up about it. We’re all trying to explain that we don’t dislike black people, and someone else is lamenting about their favorite blog not being a haven (Maybe twice a year there’s an annoyance like this one and it’s nothing to worry about.)

  17. sarah says:

    Dear Armand,

    when you make a political post on a blog, you should understand and accept the fact that there are other people who will call you out on that.

    That is also freedom of speech. Isn’t it?
    ________________

    Sarah: Precisely why I approve all relevant comments here =)
    - Armand

  18. Sophie Brown says:

    Armand:

    I don’t think YOU are being called out at all, I think probably you would agree. I don’t know how it sounds but I wanted you to know that I was being supportive.

    I was thinking about this today: I think that people do have the ability to say these things and to express themselves through art or gangster rap or anything at all acts as a steam valve. It’s hard to measure a negative event. It’s hard to measure something PREVENTATIVE. Which writing and painting or being a comedian–that probably works more often than it causes problems. Blog arguments. Whatever.

    I get jaded. These same arguments we have all the time over and over. Sometimes it really gets on your nerves. And I know it’s not just me.

  19. Teresa says:

    I made a couple of comments in my blog. The first being: “Yea! Obama won!”, because he is the one I voted for. The second comment was the next day when I wrote: “NOBODY at work said ANYTHING about our new president. How odd.” The third comment a few days later was: “I wish people would quit making racial comments about Obama and realize that he is the best choice for the job at hand. He is a calm, decisive person who, I believe, will do us a world of good. I believe people are already looking to him to lead, even before he gets into office. Unfortunately I don’t think we’ll be hearing much from our current President over the next few weeks.”

  20. John says:

    The World Must Be Ok

    3pm Election Day November 4, 2008 – I voted for the first time. No long lines, no lines at all, no campaign supporters pushing pamphlets at me and no protesting crowds. Only two college kids guiding me through the election process. Not sure if I feel a sense of pride or disbelief that my vote will effect change positively.

    http://craig-photography.blogspot.com/2008/11/world-must-be-ok.html

  21. Sophie Brown says:

    Some people definitely need a little while to adjust. But you can bet that Barak Obama will seem more and more comfortable to people. You might even say that having a black president will kind of get people used to seeing a black guy in a real leadership position. His wife is really personable, good role models all the way around. But you do have some people who just aren’t that familiar and who seem to be scratching their heads.

    Some people really just aren’t familiar with people from different groups. My grandmother never SAW a black person until she was in high school. But then she decided Oprah Winfrey was a close personal friend. Silly. I think most people are going to become acclimated to it fairly quickly. I think though that those of us who voted for him may actually have to think about it more too, we don’t want it to be an issue. We don’t want to have to WORK at it either.

  22. Rue says:

    i put my “my vote counted” sticker in my book.
    its so quiet at work. its like the republicans are mourning. they havent talked about politics period since the 4th. before they were talking sometimes racially insensitive to downright ignorant trash..now its like nothing happened.

  23. Fred Berktin says:

    When Obama was nomiunated then elected, the historic event took me back to 1952 & then 1979 in Turkey.
    1952 my dad had just returned from New York working there for four years, I was 5. Always remember him talking about and showing slides (many of you won’t know what they are) of segregation in the US. I left my home and immigrated to Canada 1n 1970. I had a neighbour an African American US military man with a blonde German wife and a blond boy and a bautiful daughter who was black. In 1979 when I went for a visit, he was still living in the same condo. I asked him why didn’t he return to the US after he retired from service and his comment was that he didn’t want to raise his daughter in a country where there was so much segregation and prejudice.
    When Obama was elected I thought of how far the US has come and I thought of Herb and his child.
    So I recorded this historic event and my thoughts with pictures and photos in my Moleskine notebook.

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